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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. donald trump and benjamin netanyahu have just held a press conference at the white house — and both have acknowledged that the two state solution may not be the only route to peace. i've thought for a while the two state looks like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly, if the palestinians, israel and the palestinians are happy, i'm like the one they like the best. —— i'm happy with the one they like the best. we'll be live in washington to talk about that. and to report on the continuing fall—out of over. mchael flynn's resignation as national security adviser. there's are renewed calls for an investigation into possible connections between mr trump's team and russia. for his part the president has launched a scathing attack on the media. in malaysia, a woman's been arrested in connection with the killing of the north korean‘s half brother. we've a report from the scene of the murder. police say that he was accosted by at least one woman who covered his
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face with a cloth. if your head is spinning from all the developments with the tramp administration, we go live to washington in both halves of the programme. if you have questions about what's happening i'm pretty sure one or both of them will be able to answer. for many years america has supported a two state solution in the middle east. today that changed. a two state solution in the middle east. today that changedli a two state solution in the middle east. today that changed. i thought for a while the two state looks like it may be the easy of the two, but honestly, if bibi and the palestinians, israel and the palestinians, israel and the palestinians are happy, i'm happy with the one they like the best, as far as the embassy moving to jerusalem, i'd love to see that happen. we're looking at it very,
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very strongly, we're looking at it with great care believe me. and we'll see what happens, 0k? there are we'll see what happens, 0k? there a re two we'll see what happens, 0k? there are two prerequisites for peace that ilaid are two prerequisites for peace that i laid out to you several years ago. and they haven't changed. first, the palestinians must recognise the jewish state. they have to stop calling for israel's destruction. they have to stop educating their people for israel's destruction. second in any peace deal, israel must retain the overriding security control over the entire area west of the jordan river because if we don't we know what will happen. because otherwise we'll get another radical islamic terrorist state in the palestinian areas exploding the peace, exploding the middle east. anthony, it was unlike anything we saw between president obama and
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benjamin netanyahu. how did you read this? that's exactly it, no secret benjamin netanyahu and barack obama didn't get along, they didn't work well together, i recall a few years ago netanyahu having an address to the us congress without obama meeting with him. they disagreed on middle east peace efforts, barack obama obviously pushed a two state solution, a principal part of their negotiations. many in the obama administration felt neta nyahu negotiations. many in the obama administration felt netanyahu and the israeli government was not cooperating and working in earnest to try to reach an agreement. this is an entirely different sort of relationship. you heard them both almost speaking from the same script talking about radical islamic terrorism and how they needed a common front to defeat it, something you never would have heard out of barack obama's mouth. both men gave state m e nts barack obama's mouth. both men gave statements then invited questions. he is one detail you may be interested in. mr trump has called
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on only conservative outlets in his last three joint press conferences. there is a radio station called town hall which is conservative. we had from the christian broadcasting network. there was one question asking whether mr trump and his administration is playing with anti—semitic and racist tones? here is the answer of the president. as far as people, jewish people, so many friends. a daughter who happens to be here right now. a son—in—law. and three beautiful grandchildren. i think that you are going to see a lots different united states of america over the next 3—4, or eight yea rs. america over the next 3—4, or eight years. i think a lot of good things are happening. you are going to see are happening. you are going to see a lots of love, you're going to see a lots of love, you're going to see a lots of love, you're going to see a lot of love. i've known the president and i've know his family
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and his name for a long time. and there is no greater supporter of the jewish people and the jewish state than president donald trump. i think we should put that to rest. a couple of things to pick up on the issue of unifying the nation which mr trump said he was going to do with a lot of love, bear in mind just today he has attacked or criticised cnn, hillary clinton, the new york times, the washington post, the so—called fa ke the washington post, the so—called fake media in general, the fbi and the national security agency. on this issue of anti—semitism, let's bring company backing from washington. this repeatedly comes up but do we have any evidence there has been a rise in anti—semitic activity, and that we can connect it in to mrtrump? activity, and that we can connect it in to mr trump? i think people point out things like a series of bomb threats made againstjewish community centres here in the us. incidents of people painting swastikas on various public buildings. it's all anecdotal.
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swastikas on various public buildings. it's allanecdotal. i think when people get upset, when critics go after donald trump for connections to anti—semitism, they look at some of the supporters from the ultra—right, white nationalists, who have been very ardent donald trump backers, particularly online, using anti—semitic language to jewish journalists. you also see donald trump's rhetoric. he retweeted an image of a star of david on a background of dollar bills to attack hillary clinton a nswered bills to attack hillary clinton answered hillary clinton was in with answered hillary clinton was in with an international cabal of bankers. the kind of language people say, the anti—defamation league would say, was used in nazi germany. this global conspiracy ofjewish bankers. thank you for the moment, we appreciate it. we can speak to any of our colleagues working on the
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most important stories of the day. earlier i asked jeremy bowen to come by, the bbc middle east editor. he was watching the press conference, too. this is what he made of it. what mr neta nyahu too. this is what he made of it. what mr netanyahu has been written forward to... he had a number of visits to washington during the obama years and they were always frosty, the men never got on. no doubt personal issues, but also because of policy things. president obama never approved of mr netanyahu's obama never approved of mr neta nyahu's policies of obama never approved of mr netanyahu's policies of encouraging settle m e nt netanyahu's policies of encouraging settlement growth and a hard line towards the palestinians. mr trump did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it.|j did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it. i don't think mr netanyahu or the israeli right will enjoy hearing that, because initially they thought they would get a blank cheque from president trump. in the first days after his inauguration, the authorised, with the netanyahu, six and a half thousand units in the
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occupied territories. and the first all—new settlement in a generation. even the white house said to him, calm down a bit, and that is what trump was saying today. what they we re trump was saying today. what they were both hinting that was some kind of wider agreement involving arab countries. who share their suspicions of iran. that was the other big theme in the news conference. on the moors israel and palestinians, the other was iran. mr trump said it could be a two state solution, but might be one state, which has left a few viewers thinking what does a one state solution look like? the two state solution look like? the two state solution is an independent palestine alongside israel, self—determination independent of the palestinians, peace down that path. it's very fashionable on the israeli right, the part of politics netanyahu belongs to in israel, to say the idea is played out. there should be new thinking. the thing about a one state solution, between the river
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jordan and mediterranean, one state containing israel and its arab population, 20% of the total, and all the palestinians. if you did all of that, the problem from israel's point of view is there would be a majority of arabs over israeli dues. if not the second in a generation certainly. it's something they would like because if they gave the vote to all those palestinians they take control of government. the alternative to that would be one state where all the adults don't have equal rights, and that of course equals apartheid. another important element of the story of the trump administration, donald trump it twitter pretty hard earlier, sending a number of tweets. the present of america comparing his
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own intelligence operations with russia unfavourably. he also compared them with nazi germany, let's hope they have thick skin. the washington post got mentioned because it was its reporting central to the pressure that led to the resignation of mr trump's national security adviser michael flynn who we talked about a lot. the president isn't at all happy with what's happened to general flynn. michael flynn, general flynn, is a ca; the "es—“h as i 572—2? gm”. n“ . h the fake media, in many cases. and i think it's really a sad thing that he was treated so badly. i think, in addition to that, from intelligence... papers are being leaked, things are being leaked... its criminal action, criminal act. and it's been going on for a long time. before me. but now it's really
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going on. bear in mind mr trump's own press secretary told us the president had asked for general flynn's resignation and had done so because of an erosion of trust between the president and general flynn. that was yesterday, now today the president is blaming the fake media for something his press secretary says he chose to do. donald trump is also upset with the new york times, partly because of this story, headlined trump campaign aides had repeated contacts with russian intelligence. moscow has been quick to say there is a truth in the story. mr trump two to twitter to say, this russian connection nonsense is an attempted cover—up the many mistakes made in hillary clinton's losing campaign. i can think of a view things that motivated the press in the story. let's bring in the bbc‘s anthony zucker. it's getting close up and
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passionate, where have we got to with this? i think the heat is definitely turning up in the white house. they are giving mixed messages. sean spicer said yesterday the reason donald trump didn't want flynn around was that he lost confidence in him. today we saw him praising general flynn. at the heart of this, as you alluded to, possible ties between donald trump, people around donald trump, and the russian government. and so when you had general flynn kind of downplaying the conversation at the end of december, saying they didn't talk about sanctions, he could have said, we talked about a whole bunch of issues. because there was a spotlight on trump and his people's relationship with russia, going all the way back to early in the campaign, it gives this area of them trying to make sure people don't focus a spotlight on that again, that they don't reenergise these enquiries about what's going on with
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the donald trump's connections to russia. the cat donald trump and what he has said over the past year oi’ what he has said over the past year or two about russia, praising vladimir putin, saying he is a stronger leader than barack obama. there are a lot of data points here, now you'll hear more and more democrats in particular, some republicans in congress, saying they need to look into this to find out exactly what's going on. a lot of smoke. what the reality is, the reality of those connections, is going to be something i think the administration will have to deal with. even now flynn has been shown the door. another twist to talk about, let's bring up some of the news wires coming in through the outside source screen. this is from the reuters news agency telling us andrew puzder formally withdraws his nomination as labour department secretary. talk us through this, how significant is that? donald trump is going to lose someone he wanted to put in the cabinet. a pretty big blow to an administration. it's not
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unheard of. past presidents, barack obama and george w bush included, have had to withdraw nominees they put up for cabinet spots. none of them were in the sort of defensive pouch the trump administration has been in. he was strongly opposed to buy democratic labour forces, pusder, because he was against raising the minimum wage. he made questionable comments about minorities immigrants and women in the workplace. there were reports he failed to pay taxes on somebody employed. a tape showed up of his ex—wife making allegations of spousal abuse during divorce proceedings. there was a lot going on with andrew puzder and republicans in congress were backing away thinking it wasn't a fight they wa nted away thinking it wasn't a fight they wanted to have. the trump administration eventually concurred
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the last thing they need is a bruising confirmation for somebody like a labor secretary that's not essential to his vision, his agenda going forward. there is supposed to bea going forward. there is supposed to be a hearing tomorrow so that pushed the issue. they didn't want to go through the hearing with all the allegations floating around. we have allegations floating around. we have a nominee for the cabinet withdrawing, donald trump leaving behind years of us policy saying he's open to a one state solution with regards to the middle east peace process. ongoing allegations there was contact between donald trump's campaign during the presidential campaign and russia. with regards to that specific new york times story, donald trump has repeatedly dismissed it. we have a quote from the kremlin spokesperson saying... the russian media is also
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unimpressed with the circumstances around the resignation of mr trump's national security adviser who we've just been discussing. the bbc‘s correspondent steve rosenberg has been looking at the russian papers. here's his review of them. the first loss in trump's team, that is the headline in the russian government paper, which declares opponents of the us president are using flynn's resignation for a new wave of hysteria against russia. the paper goes on to say the sudden and scandalous resignation of a key adviser cast a shadow on the president himself and without doubt will be used by his opponents to crank up anti—russian hysteria for an internal political battle. today's paper blames us intelligence saying according to one version of events the contents of michaelson's conversation with the russian ambassador were leaked by us intelligence. they are not shy of
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listening telephone conversations of white house staff and russian diplomats in usa, they say. another paper describes michael flynn's downfall in these terms. trump has had his right hand cut off. the writer goes on to say that an unambiguous signal has been sent to all former, current and future american officials that attempts to fix relations with russia are fatal for your career. inside he goes say this... the resignation of a major foreign policy official for doing his duties, for talking to the russian ambassador, is something in the style of stalin. he concludes with this, if flynn, before taking office, had held negotiations with the british, japanese, even chinese ambassadors, it probably wouldn't have led to a scandal. steve rosenberg. after those he has those round—ups all the time on his twitter account. donald
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trump's presidency is throwing up a lot of unprecedented situations. katty kay will be live with us from washington in 15 minutes. if you have questions for her, you can find us on have questions for her, you can find us on social media. the ruling body of the church of england rulings in one has voted against a report on the issue of same—sex marriage. the report from senior bishops called on the church to welcome and support gay people but concluded marriage in church should only be between a man and a woman. while religious affairs correspondent martin bashir has more. they said married in church should
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remaina they said married in church should remain a lifelong union between a man and a woman. that was turned over by the house of clergy, who decided that was insufficiently inclusive. i'm ros atkins with outside source. the lead story is israel's prime minister has met donald trump at the white house. at a joint press conference the president made it clear bbc mundo reports that venezuela's president, nicolas maduro, has demanded the us apologise and withdraw sanctions imposed on the vice president. that's unlikely. the us accuses tareck el aissami of drugs trafficking — for his part the vice present says
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the claims are imperialist aggression. the united nations has warned of a serious escalation of the conflict in eastern ukraine. an official said that since january the distance between government and rebel forces has narrowed to a few hundred metres, and that in some places they are almost face to face. that is from bbc ukrainian. here is another element of how donald trump's administration is impacting on america and the rest of the world. let's look at america's position in nato. in the past mr trump has called it obsolete. he's also said a lot of these countries are paying what they are supposed to be. —— are not paying. he has also said, nato is very important to me. difficult to work out his precise position. this is mr trump's gripe. the huge area marked in blue represents the proportion of nato's
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budget that the us picks up. despite the fact it picks up more than any other country, some nato members are not meeting their agreed commitments to the budget. the new us defence secretary james mattis has had to the budget. the new us defence secretaryjames mattis has had his first meeting with nato defence ministers in brussels. he picked up onjust the ministers in brussels. he picked up on just the issues the president has been mentioning. it's absolutely appropriate as a european minister of defence said last week, it's a fair demand that all who benefit from the best defence in the world carry their proportionate share of the necessary cost to defend freedom and we should never forget that ultimately it is freedom that we defend here at nato. we understand a behind closed doors meeting secretary matias said... i.e., show us the money. the bbc‘s
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jonathan marcus is at nato in brussels. i asked for his assessment of how it has gone. a very interesting day here at nato. general matters is a nato old—timer, former military commander in the alliance. he described the building behind me as his second home. he's been around these corridors for yea rs, been around these corridors for years, he's heard all the efforts by previous us defence secretary is to get nato's european allies to spend more. he's heard all the excuses, the commitments made and broken. and now the trump administration is in office, he wants things to change. he made it clear it's not going to be business as usual. he gave assurance the trump administration is foursquare behind nato. it is a contingent, conditional commitment
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to nato. it rests upon nato's european allies reaching deeper into their pockets to pay for a greater share of their own defence. given those european allies have made commitments, what is their defence for not meeting them? they don't have much of a defence, this is the problem. a few years ago at a summit in wales, nato countries agreed they would spend 2% of their gross domestic product, the gdp, on defence. only five countries including the united states met that commitment. but everybody entered into willingly. it was a consensus otherwise it would have not been passed. you can understand the american frustration. the mamma administration wasjust american frustration. the mamma administration was just as frustrated as the trump administration is. —— the obama administration was just as frustrated. the trump administration clearly intends to make nato's
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european allies pay more of their fair share. time for outside source business concentrating on greece. this man on the right is the eu finance commissioner who has been in athens meeting the greek prime minister. the greek economy is still in deep trouble. it matters because there are economic and political consequences for europe, in particular those countries which use the euro, if it were to default on its debt. chris received a bailout worth 86 billion euros in 2015. the next debt payment some 7 billion euros is due injuly. the greeks can't afford to pay unless it accesses can't afford to pay unless it a ccesses m ore can't afford to pay unless it accesses more funds from the bailout. it's not going to happen u nless bailout. it's not going to happen unless greece's creditors including the imf and eu, get more austerity reforms in return. the argument of the greek prime minister is it is reasonable. the greek economy hasn't grown very much and his people have been through enough. these results
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are due to the crisis of the greek people. everybody has to recognise the figures and to respect the sacrifices of the greek people. so the message is enough with austerity in greece. it could be destructive to discuss it even for one year or more, the basis of these results. we're going to take a brief break before coming back for the second half. less than four beats into donald trump's presidency and my goodness there has been an awful lot to discuss. we've got katty kay with us to discuss. we've got katty kay with us for a good ten or 15 minutes after the break, any questions you got with what's happening in washington and how it impacts on eve ryo ne washington and how it impacts on everyone around the world, let me know. we're going to take a look at what's
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going on with the weather around the world. first we're off to africa. out in the mozambique channel over the last few days we've been watching this storm system gather strength and it has been upgraded from severe tropical storm to a cyclone. it's working south—west and will make landfall across the eastern side of mozambique. through the night time and into thursday. double whammy risk factors, we'll see flooding, rain and strong gusts of wind over the next 2a hours. that storm system across eastern and southern parts of mozambique. 2—300 millimetres of rain. likely to see flooding in mozambique. the winds up to 95 mph, damaging, destructive gusts. the storm has some benefits, encouraging a number of showers. we're also seeing showers forming elsewhere parts of zambia for example. areas that could do with seeing fairly heavy rain. getting
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around 50 millilitres or so as we go through thursday. looking a little bit further north and east, a lot of cloud showing up at the moment through the middle east, the weather unsubtle. reports of flooding over the last 2a hours from the south—west of saudi arabia and this cold front will continue to bring heavy thundery bursts of rain. some areas could get around 60 minute metres of rain so we're looking at localised flooding, dangerous driving conditions. this part of the world we' re driving conditions. this part of the world we're not used to such rain. the rain will flood some of the systems. saudi arabia, bahrain, qatar and western areas of iran at risk. there will be some gusty winds, too. double trouble for the north—east of the us, these were scenes from monday. dumping up to 75 centimetres of snow in a 24—hour period in may. it caused absolute chaos. more snowy weather on the way. an area of low pressure
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develops tonight and into thursday bringing further heavy snowfall into mayne the mayne the canadian viayne the canadian maritime into the canadian maritime provinces, especially new brunswick. picking up 20—30 centimetres of snow, up to a foot. there is likely to be disruption to power and travel. overnight tonight quite breezy, outbreaks of rain for the north. otherwise a dry picture. not cold for most, temperatures around six or 7 degrees. cooler than that in the countryside across england and wales. here is the picture through thursday. a breeze across northern areas where there will be looked rain affecting western and northern scotland. rain getting into northern ireland later in the afternoon but the bulk of england and wales dry and bright with sunshine wherever you are. it's likely to be mild. temperatures up to 12 degrees. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. let's look through some of the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. donald trump and benjamin netanyahu have met at the white house — both have acknowledged that the two state solution may not be the only route to peace.
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i thought for a while the two state looked like it might be the easier of the two, but honestly, if israel and the palestinians are happy, i'm happy with the one they like the best. the fall out from michael flynn's resignation as national security adviser continues. the president has come to general flynn's defence and launched a scathing attack on the media. katty kay will be with us to talk this through. in malaysia, a woman's been arrested in connection with the killing
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